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Licensing (Premises) Sub-Committee
Thursday, 17th September 2026 at 2:00pm

 
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Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:00:00
Sanilla Hussain - Democratic Services Officer - 0:00:05
Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen our first business on the agenda is to confirm the chairman

1 Confirmation of Chairman

for today's meeting and I can confirm that Councillor Phil Grom has been selected to
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:00:15
chair this hearing today. Very good thank you Sunila. Good afternoon and welcome to

2 Introductory remarks by the Chairman

the Buckinghamshire Council Licencing Subcommittee hearing in relation to an application for
variation of premises located at Hedgley Premier at 2 Hedgley -Slough Sl 2 3 RP. I wonder how many
more times I'm going to have to say Hedgley today but everybody welcome. So yeah I'm the chairman
for the hearing my name's Councillor Philip Gomm I look after the Quaint Award and now I'd like to
Cllr Kathy Gibbon - 0:00:58
of course, Councillor Gibbon. Well I'm Councillor Gibbon as Councillor Gomm said and I'm the member
Cllr Michael West - 0:01:05
for Bearden, Kingsbrook and Wing Ward. Very good and now to Councillor West. I'm Councillor Mike
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:01:13
West and I'm currently ward member for Penn, Tylers Green and Loudwater. And now we're going to move
around the board as we go to Mr Stacey Bella. Good afternoon, Stacey Bella, Licencing Officer for
Stacey Bella - Licensing Officer - 0:01:22
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:01:25
Buckinghamshire Council. Thank you very much for that and she will present the report and
provide advice on any matters relating to licencing policy, guidance and practise. And
Laura Heller - Legal - 0:01:38
then we move on round to our legal team. Laura Heller. Good afternoon, Laura Heller. I'm
a solicitor from the council's legal department and I'm here to advise the panel today. Which
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:01:47
is very good and you always advise us extremely well on licencing and of course local government
law and this is to ensure that the committee makes a decision it is both within its powers
and legally sound. Then we carry on round to democratic services to Sunila Hussain.
Sanilla Hussain - Democratic Services Officer - 0:02:03
Good afternoon Sunila Hussain partnership support officer in the democratic services.
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:02:10
Thank you very much and again you advise us and support us in the meeting and advise on council
procedure. Then in attendance we're going to go round attendance the following involved
at various stages of the discussion of this application.
So first we've got the applicant,
which is Mr. Manet Singh.
Can, let me just get this right, Kannada.
That's right, yes, perfect.
Very good, but I noticed that on the screen,
we've got you as Sunny.
How would you -
Sorry, I just did it.
No, no.
Sorry, I'm not really used to teams and meetings.
So it was quick for me to do it, so yes.
Applicant - 0:02:47
Yeah, how would you like me to refer to you?
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:02:51
Well if it's easier for you to go by sunny then I don't mind it, I think it's better isn't it?
That's very kind of you to say so and makes my life a bit easier and quicker as we go through there.
So, but welcome to the meeting. Have you ever been at one of these hearings before?
I haven't no.
Applicant - 0:03:09
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:03:13
Okay it's really easy we're quite we have our rules and regulations as you know but you'll
be welcome to speak we'll ask you to speak as we go through but you know if you drop in a bit too
quick don't worry I'll put you back into place but it is an easy meeting to work on. Very good
so I can confirm that if any relevant person is not present their representations will be would
been read and will be considered when reaching a decision. As you know we did have some representation
but we can pick up in a second so as I go through do we have we're going to go to procedural items

3 Apologies for absence

Sanilla Hussain - Democratic Services Officer - 0:03:57
now do we have any apologies of absence? Yes Chairman so from the interested party and they
sent through apologies but they've also sent through a written response. Yeah thank you very
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:04:04
much for that and we do know that the other party they did ask to change the time etc but
that wasn't possible with all of us so but just for the record they had asked for that

4 Declarations of interest

to be considered. Now we go on to agenda item four turning now to declarations of interest
under the council's code of conduct. Do any members have any declarations of interest
which they wish to bring to the attention of the subcommittee? Councillor Gibbon. No, chairman.
Councillor West. No. Very good and I have none either so we could continue there. At

5 Hearing Procedure Rules

Agenda Item 5 we have a licenced subcommittee hearing procedure rules which have been appended
to the Agenda Pack for information. Please could all parties in attendance confirm that
they have seen and understood the procedure to be followed at the hearing? Everybody happy
with that. You see that in the agenda pack. Sonny, did you see that in yours? Yeah, very
good. So everyone in attendance is happy for the hearing to proceed. We'll continue on
there. So thank you for that. The purpose of the hearing should be borne in mind at
all times. To name all those with a right to appear to advance their point of view and
their concerns to test the case of their opponents and to assist the subcommittee to gather evidence
and understand the relevant issues. Please be reminded that parties should only address
the subcommittee in relation to matters previously raised or submitted. The subcommittee may depart
from this procedure if it considers it necessary or equitable to do so. As we continue on down the
agenda. Do we have any preliminary issues? No. So licenced officers, no. We have none

6 Premier Hedgerley , 2 Hedgerley Hill, Hedgerley, Slough, SL2 3RP

at all. Now we move down to the premises application itself, agenda item six. We now need to consider
the officer report being presented this afternoon in respect of a variation for Headley Premier
2 Hedley Slough SL 2 3 RP. Please note that you should only address the subcommittee in
relation to matters previously raised. Any lay evidence will be only considered with
the consent of all parties. We've had no lay evidence so we're happy to continue from there.
So just before we move on to the next section, just want to make sure that everyone's got
mobile phones on silent just in case while they're hearing and also for ease if everybody can turn
off their microphone so we don't get no call back on there too sometimes we get a bit of whistle.
So I'd now like to invite the Licencing Officer Miss Bella to present the report outlining the
details of the application and representations received. Over to you. Thank you Chairman.
Stacey Bella - Licensing Officer - 0:07:11
This report relates to an application for a variation of the premises licence for Premier
Hedgeley located at 2 Hedgeley Hill, Hedgeley. The application has been submitted by Mumpreet
Singh Kaneja who is both the current premises licence holder and designated premises supervisor.
The premises itself is a convenience store within a small parade of shops on Hedgeley
Hill. It is located adjacent to the village green and surrounded predominantly by residential
properties and local community facilities. A location plan is attached to the report
marked with Appendix 1. The premises was originally granted a premises licence under the Licencing
Act 2003 during the transitional period in 2005. The current licence holder and DPS took
over responsibility for the licence in May 2023 and the premises name was changed from
Hedgley Local to Premier Hedgley in October 2024. No other changes have been made to the
premises licence since its original grant in 2005. A copy of the current premises licence
is attached as Appendix 2. This application is for a variation of the existing premises
licence to commence with immediate effect should the licencing authority decide to grant.
The applicant seeks to extend the permitted hours for the sale of alcohol starting at
6am and finishing at 11pm every day of the week. The application also seeks to specify
opening hours of the premises as 6 a .m to 11 p .m daily. No changes proposed to the existing
non -standard timings. The application also proposes a number of additional measures to
promote the licencing objectives. In agreement with the applicant these measures have been
translated into clear and enforceable licence conditions and can be found at paragraph 10 of
the report. Please note that the existing premises licence also contains embedded conditions
transferred from legacy legislation. These legacy restrictions have also been amended
in the report to reflect the hours sought by the current application. However, any further
amendment or removal of those restrictions would require a separate minor variation application
under section 41A of the Licencing Act 2003. A copy of the application form is attached
marked as Appendix 3. The application was subject to the statutory
28 -day consultation period during which one valid objection was received from an interested
party. During this time, a response of no objection was received from Thames Valley
Police and no other responses were received from any of the other responsible authorities.
In terms of the licencing officer's observations, one valid objection was received during the
28 -day consultation period from Councillor David Moore who is a ward councillor for Farnhams
and stoat closures. The representation raises concerns that extending alcohol sales to commence
at 6 a .m. daily could undermine the licencing objectives of the prevention of crime and
disorder, prevention of public nuisance and the protection of children from harm. It is
argued that increased alcohol availability during the early morning period may have a
detrimental impact within a residential village setting and that insufficient evidence has
been provided to demonstrate that the variation will not adversely impact the licencing objectives
objectives. The representation also refers to concerns raised with the ward councillor
by local residents regarding the potential impact of granting the application. No other
valid objections were received by the licencing authority. The applicant has offered a number
of measures intended to promote the licencing objectives. These have been converted into
clear precise conditions to ensure that they are enforceable. In addition to any mandatory
conditions, the licencing subcommittee should consider whether the conditions offered by
applicants are appropriate for the promotion of the licencing objectives and adequately
address the concerns raised in the representation received.
In terms of policy considerations, members must have regard to the Council's statement
of licencing policy published in March 2022 and the Home Office guidance issued under
section 182 of the Licencing Act 2003 as amended. Areas of particular relevance are set out
within my report. However, members are not limited to considering only those sections
and should have regard to all relevant parts of the policy and guidance. I would like to
specifically highlight paragraph 3 .13 of the licencing policy in regard to hours, which
states that shops, stores and supermarkets will normally be free to provide sales of
alcohol for consumption off the premises at any times when the retail outlet is open for
shopping unless there are good reasons based on the licencing objectives for restricting
those hours. In regards to the prevention of crime and disorder, the policy states that
section 17 of the Crime and Disorder Act places a legal duty on the council to consider the
reduction of crime and disorder, including the reduction of antisocial behaviour in all
its activities. The licencing authority will look to the police as the main source of advice
on crime and disorder matters. Applicants are expected to demonstrate in their operating
schedule how they intend to promote the crime and prevention objective in relation to the
licence activities provided. Applicants should also consider local circumstances, for example,
the terminal hour of other licenced premises in close proximity, local crime and antisocial
behaviour hotspots. The licencing authority will treat the police as the main source of
advice on conditions to be applied in order to promote the crime prevention objective.
And in regard to the prevention of public nuisance, the policy states that in considering
all licence applications, the licencing authority will consider whether the measures proposed
to deal with the potential for public nuisance, having regard to all circumstances of the
application, are adequate. Much weight will be placed on recommendations made by environmental
health officers in terms of preventing public nuisance.
Members are reminded that the subcommittee's decision will have human rights implications
for both the applicant and those who have made relevant representations. These rights must be
considered fairly and balanced appropriately to ensure that any decision reached is proportionate.
The applicant, the application has been referred to the subcommittee in accordance with
to participate. There are also rights hold on a sec Stacey, we lost a bit then I'm gonna have
ask you to go back a little bit. You went, you froze. Okay, what was the, where do you want me
to go back to? What was the last bit that you got? That's a good question. It was literally probably
about five seconds Stacy, so if you just go back slightly. Yeah fine, so I think I just
was reminding members about the human rights implications, did you? Yeah. Is that about right?
Yeah from there please, thank you. So the decision today will have human rights
implications for both the applicant and those who have made relevant representations. These rights
must be considered fairly and balanced appropriately to ensure that any decision reached is proportionate.
The application has been referred to the subcommittee in accordance with the statutory
process. Both the applicant and those making representations have been notified of the hearing
and given an opportunity to participate.
There are also rights of appeal available
following the subcommittee's decision.
Article eight and article one of the first protocol
also need to be considered.
And this is the right to respect for private or family life
and peaceful enjoyment of one's property and possessions.
And this can include a licence.
In determining the application today,
the subcommittee are obliged to consider
all of the matters set out within this report,
along with any other material considerations,
and with a view to promoting the four licencing objectives,
which are the prevention of crime and disorder,
public safety, prevention of public nuisance,
and the protection of children from harm.
As previously referred to,
regard must be had to the council's licencing policy,
home office guidance,
issued under section 182 of the Licencing Act 2003,
relevant representations received,
and the evidence presented at the hearing.
Each application must be considered on its own merits and any conditions attached to
the premises licence must be tailored to the individual style and characteristics of the
premises and events concerned. This is essential to avoid the imposition of disproportionate
or overly burdensome conditions on premises. The options available to the licencing subcommittee
are to grant the variation application subject to any conditions to be attached to the premises
licence which are consistent with the operating schedule and any relevant mandatory conditions.
You can reject the whole of the variation application or you may grant the variation
application subject to different conditions for different parts of the premises or licence
activities if this is considered appropriate and proportionate to promote the four licencing
objectives and in response to the representations received.
The subcommittee is asked to note that it may not reject the whole or part of the application
or modify or add to the existing conditions merely because it considers it desirable to
do so. It must be appropriate and proportionate in order to promote the licencing objectives
objectives and be in response to representations received.
When determining this application, the subcommittee is also reminded that it may only consider
the impact of the variation being sought. Any modification to existing conditions or
the imposition of additional conditions must relate directly to the proposed variation
and its effect on the promotion of the licencing objectives. Matters unrelated to the variation
or to the effect of the variation on the existing licence should not be taken into account and
four reasons must be given for the licencing subcommittee's decision. Paragraph 10 of the
report sets out conditions offered by the applicant as part of their operating schedule.
In addition to the mandatory conditions, members should consider whether the proposed conditions
are appropriate for the promotion of the licencing objectives and whether they adequately address
the concerns raised in the representation received. The conditions have been reworded
into clear and enforceable terms and have been agreed with the applicant. I'm happy
to read the conditions out if members would like me to. If not, that concludes my report
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:18:17
and I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you very much, Stacey. We were going
through the conditions earlier on. Members of you, I just want to double cheque that you
have read the conditions or would you like the officer to read those out?
I've read them Phil and I'm quite happy to proceed without them being read.
Cllr Michael West - 0:18:39
Lovely. There we go. Saves a bit of reading there for you, which is good.
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:18:44
Very good report as always.
So now we're going to go back to the agenda.
Excuse me for coughing slightly there.
Wood Sunny, as the applicant, would you like to put any questions to our licencing officer, sir?
Applicant - 0:18:59
No, I'm happy with the conditions that you have proposed.
And is it the time that I speak now or shall I just wait?
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:19:09
Not just yet. It's our time to scrutinise our licencing officer.
You know, but if you haven't got any questions, then we can move on and you'll get your turn coming up very shortly.
Okay so we've gone there from the applicant with questions. Now I'm going to go around to
members if you've got any questions you'd like to ask the Licencing Officer and I go to Councillor
Gibbon first. No I don't thank you. Thank you very much. Councillor West. None for me Chair.
Okay, I have one of frustration again and I picked it up earlier and I think we do need to address this.
You know, we're dealing with people's applications here and you know, comments have been made from outside parties.
And when I look down and we keep looking down to other parties that are supposed to, you know, let me just go to there with me.
Responsible authorities, you know, on page 12. The only one that's commented back to us is the police.
And, you know, some of those on that group, they're important issues and they should really at least respond and say,
I have no comment, but not to receive a comment from them is quite bad.
So could we try and pick up on that or could we have a discussion outside of how we could improve on that maybe?
We certainly can, yes. Yeah, we could definitely pick that up outside of this area.
Yeah, because it is important with any application that there's those that should do.
But thanks for that, which is good. Thank you very much.
I've only sounded for your fairness of anyone commenting otherwise.
So as we go through, so members have got no questions.
So I'd now like to invite the applicant to address the hearing.
Sonny, it's over to you, sir.
Could I just interrupt one moment, please, Sonny?
Could you move a little closer to your microphone?
Your volume is a little bit weaker than everyone else in this group.
So thank you.
Hi, can you hear me better now?
Applicant - 0:21:27
Okay, I would just like to advise that and would like to share some information that
the reason why I've done this is to manage the store more easily and conveniently.
Reason being like we do have a very odd occasion that we get customers like elderly people
and senior citizens who do their grocery shopping early in the morning because they come in
to get their newspapers and stuff for magazines and they would need to do their shopping the
daily shopping or weekly shopping.
And I, just to give you some information
that I apparently live in the same village too.
And I don't know if you would be able to tell,
I'm only 250 feet away from the shop.
It's a very nice locality and I live,
I'm part of the village.
So if there were any issues that were to be in the area,
I would have also said, I might have not come forward
and asked for this timings.
It's just that we are being very careful that we do not make any mistakes.
And this is the solely reasons.
There's no reason that I want to push the alcohol sales forward or anything.
And touch wood, we do not have any issues or crimes or disorder in the area regarding
in terms of the alcohol sales or anything like that.
Because otherwise, the licencing officer would have been able to tell you or maybe share
some report on this.
if you've ever had any issues regarding it.
We don't even do the strong beers or anything like that.
So it's very nice and neat community.
I'm part of the community as in terms of I live there
and I work there.
So these are my points that I just wanted to raise with you.
And maybe if there is a possibility
that you can grant us for some time and you see how it goes,
and even if you wanted to maybe after six months or a year,
you want to see the sales of the alcohol in the morning,
we would be able to provide that too.
It's purely not for business,
it's just to make sure that we are managing the store
more easily and conveniently.
Thank you very much.
Anything else you'd like to add?
No, I'm okay, thank you.
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:23:51
Okay, thank you very much, Sunny.
Keep your microphone on because I'm sure one or two might have some questions.
So first I'll go to our licencing officer.
Do you have any questions you'd like to put to the applicant?
I don't have any questions. Thank you, Chair.
Thank you very much. And then we're going to move round to members to speak to the applicant.
But this time I'm going to twist it around and let Councillor West go first.
Microphone, Councillor.
Microphones me.
Microphones me.
I'll address him, please.
Cllr Michael West - 0:24:27
Sorry.
Thank you, Chair.
I think somebody has answered my question, mainly.
What I was going to ask him was what volume of sales does he think he's actually going to make between six and eight?
and what difference does he think it's going to make to the immediate area around the shop?
Will it cause people to stay in the vicinity and consume alcohol or is it does he expect this just
to be off -licence sales that can disappear with them as he said with the newspaper or with the
shopping and disappear home?
It will be purely as we are an off licence.
Applicant - 0:25:13
It will be purely for off the premises.
I know we are not on on licence trade.
It's off licence and it's purely for people to take home.
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:25:27
And what was what?
Cllr Michael West - 0:25:31
Well, just to give you an idea what volume of your what percentage of your alcohol
sales do you think you'll actually make between six and eight in the morning?
Applicant - 0:25:41
To be honest it will be the minimal possible. The only reason as I've previously spoken to
Stacey Bell and I addressed this to her that the only reason why we want to change this is
because sometimes we have new staff and we give them training and just in case if you're not
really we do try not to make any mistakes because it can cost us a lot but then I'm not saying that
we've had made mistakes, but then it's very easy to make mistakes, which is like between
the hours of six and eight, if somebody comes at quarter to eight, we do normally deny them.
We are well trained for it. We have a book that we keep record. We have crime prevention
books. We have the CCTV footage stored for over 31 days at requested and by law and by
the councils. So it's it's purely not for the sales to push the sales. Yes, there will
be sales, but then we are not doing it for pushing the sales at all because we get those
customers during the day or later anyway. It's just that, you know, it's very easy to
make a mistake is to sell an alcohol maybe before the timing, just in case. It's just
purely for that reason.
Thank you.
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:26:54
Councillor Gibbons. Thank you, Chairman. Yeah, Councillor West
and you have sort of answered the one, Christa, I just wondered why you wanted to sell alcohol
so early. I just wondered if it was a demand, but it's not. So it's not, as you said, for
demand, it's just so that you're confident you're not making any mistakes, which concerns
me a bit because my concern is to do with underage or sale of alcohol to underage children
because there is a bus stop pretty much outside your store which children apparently get on
to go to school. I just would like to know what measures do you have to make sure that
do not sell any alcohol to children on their way to school because it's very difficult to tell the
age. Some of these girls at 25 with all the makeup on the six formers it's very very hard to tell
their age so I'd like to know really what what additional training do your staff have to deal
with this and how can you ensure that you are not selling alcohol to children on their way to school?
Applicant - 0:28:08
Okay, first of all, I've been in the business for over 15 years now, started working in
2011, okay.
And to make that mistake, it will cost me my business.
It is a mistake that we cannot afford to make.
We are well trained.
And obviously, we do have a challenge 25 in place by the government, right.
And we do challenge anyone who looks under the age.
And I would say that is one thing that we do because I've got a few other stores too
in different boroughs.
I've got another store in Cherish Cross.
I've got in Slough.
So I'm quite familiar with the laws and what we need to do.
And I always try and be careful and I try to be reluctant and make sure that we never
do any sales.
I even had a store in Windsor once before and there was a college right there and they
all 18 -year -olds and we made sure we had an agreement with the college. It was like an
verbal, it's just an understanding with the college that we will never sell to any kids
any over 18 -year -olds before four o 'clock from the college. And over here, you know, the thing is,
we are such a small community, we all know each other, everybody knows where I live,
they always, the local community is so helpful, they know my guys do work at the store
and we, I will never, I've got two young children, okay, and I will never push that.
And regardless of doing that, you know, if I was to ever make that mistake, it will cost
me my business, which I cannot put on the line. So we will make sure that we never do
that.
Okay, so you'll ensure that all your staff are sufficiently well trained that they know
what to do?
Yes, they are even trained now. We've always had our, we've had trading standards and the licencing team do routine cheques and touch wood with God's grace, we've always asked.
Okay, thank you.
Very good Councillor Gibbon. Now it's my turn, Sunny, I'm a little bit different than my colleagues.
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:30:14
But a few questions. I've struggled because I found your statement contradictory to what we're sort of saying here
because you're saying you want to change the licence till six in the morning so your staff, it takes the error of any mistake away.
okay, but I'm struggling with that one because like both councils have said, your staff could
make a mistake then, you're saying they're well trained, but on one hand you're saying
they're not trained enough to not make a mistake, but on the other hand they could make a mistake
and serve a young person? No, that mistake, sorry.
Laura Heller - Legal - 0:31:02
Sorry, Councillor Gough, just before the applicant answers that, I'd just like to remind the
handled that selling alcohol to children breach of licence conditions these are
criminal offences and so the applicant shouldn't or doesn't have to answer any
questions which would self incriminate him so it's just that that reminder I
felt like we were potentially veering over in in that in that in that
direction and so it would just be a reminder of his right to not incriminate himself into any
matters which may have formed criminal offences previously. Thank you. Okay, I could reword my
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:31:47
question but I certainly don't answer my question. I think I've got enough answered. It's just that
word mistake cropped up a couple of times and that concerns me in whatever form it takes.
Can you let me know, say you've been open, your opening times at present are 6 a .m in the morning
till 8 p .m at night time, is that correct? That's correct, yes. Okay but you're saying
So you don't use your lights, you don't stay open till 10 or 11 to your licence.
Okay and then you're saying the reason you want the licence is because
older age people come in shopping in the morning and you want the ability
some mistakes aren't made so if they wanted a bottle of wine or something you could sell one?
Okay, I would rephrase that. It's not a mistake that we've previously made. It's just that
if some like the other day, the whole reason why I started the application was we had a
nurse who finished work and she came into the store at 7 .45. Okay. And then she came
in and she said, I wanted to get a drink so I could go home. And after when I wake up,
I need my drink. And I was like, okay, we can't really sell you till before eight o 'clock.
So it's not that we've made any mistakes.
It's just that we will rarely get somebody who wants something,
who's probably finished work or maybe they're doing their grocery shopping or something,
they'll do that.
But then coming back to the point that how do I make sure that we don't sell to the children?
If I was to be selling it to the children, if any store don't hold me to it,
they could probably sell it after or during their licencing period timing anyway.
So, it's not that it is something that we will do or we do or we have any intentions
of doing.
That is wrongdoing and that's as Laura Hill has said, it's against the law and I do fully
comply with the law and we make sure it is our duty as a DP, a premises licence holder,
it is our duty to make sure that we do not make any of these mistakes.
So it's we've never made any of these mistakes.
It's just that it's a pressure on mind that we want to ease off, you know, and it's not
for the sales of alcohol at all, as I previously said.
And we don't have any sort of antisocial behaviour in the area.
We have anybody sitting outside the store drinking or littering around the store.
So we don't really have any of these issues at all whatsoever.
Yeah, so please don't take it as making an accusation towards you that you were selling
under age. I weren't making that at all, I was just picking up on something. Yeah, okay
so just picking up again is, bear with me a second, so as Councillor Gibbon stated there's
a bus stop outside your premises and that's a school bus stop is that correct?
It's a bus stop for the village yes. But school children get on that bus in the morning?
Applicant - 0:35:16
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:35:19
Yes they do. Thank you very much and then just noticing around you, there's also you got a play
area next door playground next to your premises? Yeah we have a playground yes. Okay and
and then there's a scout hall just across the way is that correct? That's correct yes. Thank you and
the big woods just behind I'm just intrigued on this one there is a massive woods behind you is
Is that woods open to the public, do you know, or is it privately owned?
The woodland where exactly?
Because we do have quite a lot of woodland area.
It's right behind your shop, where you are, right behind is a big woods?
No, there isn't any.
No, well, it's not a public access, sorry.
All right. OK.
Yeah, ginormous woods, lovely area.
Okay, that's the only questions that I've got. As the applicant, before we move on,
is there anything else you wish to say?
I would just like to remind you that I've said I'm literally less than a minute walk
from the store and if it was a problem in the area, my kids normally go to the store,
we have other kids, so I wouldn't really be doing it at all and it's again not purely
for just making sure that we are selling loads of alcohol.
The sales would not really make any business
to the difference at all.
It's just not to have that pressure on the mind anymore.
Okay, thank you very much.
So we're gonna continue down the agenda.
So the applicant there has had the opportunity
to say more and he did, which is very good,
very helpful for us.
So we're gonna now move into closing submissions
should you wish to make any.
and we're going to do it in the following order. First it would be licencing officer
followed by the applicant. So as we continue down, would the licencing officer like to
Stacey Bella - Licensing Officer - 0:37:28
do a closing submission? Thank you, Chair. I just wanted to add in regards to the questions
around under -aid sales and sort of an unlicensed sale of alcohol, the licencing authority don't
have any history of any complaints or non -compliance regarding the premises.
But yeah, no other comments to make. Thank you.
Very good. Thanks for clarifying that as well. Much appreciated.
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:37:50
Then we carry on. We then come down to the applicant himself.
Is there any closing submission you'd like to make, sir?
Applicant - 0:37:59
No, that's all from me.
Cllr Phil Gomm - 0:38:02
Very good. Thank you. So that concludes the evidence in this matter.
Before I can conclude the hearing, is there any party present who does not
consider that they have had a fair hearing.
Is everybody happy with the hearing today?
Good. Very good.
So subcommittee will now retire together with
the legal advisor and democratic service officers.
For the matter to be determined,
the subcommittee will come to a decision which will be sent to
the applicant and all other parties who submitted relevant representations.
within the time limits set out in the regulations together with the details of any right of appeal.
So after that if all the other parties could leave the room except for of course members and the legal advisor and democratic services if you could stay.
But everyone else leave.
Sonny I'd like to say absolute privilege to have met you sir.
I hope your business continues as it should and you'll hear from us as soon as you can.
Okay, that's great. It's lovely to see you all. Thank you for your time. All the best.
Very good. Thank you. Bye.
Thank you. Bye.
Okay.
Are you ready for it? I believe as well.
You ready for it? Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
See you later.
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